I have left few stones unturned in trying to find the father of Nick Frelow Eller. Isabella (from my title) was the daughter of a man named William Eller, born in NC around 1831. That's according to the 1860 census of Castor, Madison, Missouri. Also according to that census, Isabella was herself born in 1854 in Indiana, and she had a younger brother named James E., born in Missouri in 1858. That tells me that the Eller family moved from Indiana to Missouri between 1854 and 1858.
The main reason that Isabella is so interesting is because the man I'm trying to trace, Nick Frelow Eller's father, was (according to the 1880 census for Scott, Taney, MO) William Eller, a man born around 1830 in NC. By 1880, Isabella would have been 26 and probably married, so she would not have appeared on that 1880 census with her father, but the children that do appear, Franklin, Nick and Eliza were born, respectively, in MO, IL and IN. For that to be true, the family had to have been living in MO at the time of Franklin's birth, 1860, subsequently traveled north to IL by the time Nick was born, 1865, later lived in IN, where Eliza was born in 1866 and, finally, returned to MO by 1880, the date of the census.
Isabella, too, was living in MO with her father, William Eller, in 1860, and Franklin could have been born that year after the census was taken.
My hunch is that William had Eller relatives living in Indiana. It's possible that the Civil War, brutal in Missouri, was a factor in the family's move north again between 1860 and 1865. Also, if Nick's place of birth, IL, is accurate, the family was moving quite a bit and that might explain why I have yet to find a census record for them in 1870 (the record, by the way, which would possibly show Isabella and James in the household along with the younger children). Lacking this record, I can't be sure that Isabella's father is the same as Nick F Eller's father.
I've tried to replace that record with other information and that's why I ordered this Indiana marriage certificate. It shows Isabel Eller marrying David Brown in Indiana in 1872, but I was hoping it might show the name of the bride's father or mother. It doesn't.
Nevertheless, date and place and name are all consistent with the timeline I sketched above. If Nick's older sister was to marry, it would have been in Indiana between 1870 and 1880.
I'm still trying to confirm a hypothetical timeline I've constructed for William Eller's life. I'm searching Indiana for Ellers, especially in Monroe (where David and Isabella are buried) and in Greene (where they married) counties, and I continue to look for records between 1866 and 1880 for William.
If YOU have any information that could help me, please comment.
Headstone: Richland Cemetery, Bloomington, Monroe County, IN
"It is a noble faculty of ours which enables us to collect our thoughts, our sympathies and our happiness with what is distant in place or times - to hold communion with our ancestors. We become their contemporaries, live the lives they lived, endure what they have endured and partake of the rewards which they have enjoyed." --Daniel Webster
Wednesday, September 29, 2010
Friday, September 24, 2010
Deitrich Glander of Preble County, Ohio, born 1841 in Germany
There appears to be a lot of confusion surrounding the Glander families in Preble County, OH, and not without reason. There WERE multiple families of German immigrants, including families of children with names like Catherine, Magaretha, Anna and lots of German boys named Deitrich, who came to America and eventually settled on farms in Ohio.
I admit to being somewhat lax when I first began looking along that branch of my family tree, but I soon discovered that a conservative approach was best when faced with the Glander problem in OH. Without traveling to Preble County myself, I think I must be satisfied with the few records that absolutely fit the parameters I've set for this family and reject any others, no matter how tempting to claim for my Deitrich Glander.
My confusion is simplified by narrowing the search with a Ditzenberger, that is, the Deitrich Glander in whom I'm interested married Catherine Ditzenberger, dau. of Jacob Wesley (also a German immigrant) and Mary Elizabeth MOORE DITZENBERGER. Catherine and Deitrich may have met in Preble Co., OH where the first four Ditzenberger children were born before the family moved to Boone Co., Indiana or, just as likely, the families knew each other and when it came time for Catherine to marry... Well, young people have a way of finding one another...
Before digging into the Ohio Glander records, I already had a timeline on Deitrich and Catherine as a couple residing in Boone Co., Indiana. I knew from census records that Deitrich was born in Jan 1841 and that he traveled to America in 1855 and married Catherine around 1867 (confirmed by a marriage record, which pins the date down to 24 Sep 1868). These were three relatively good dates from his most legible census record, the 1910 Indiana. I also knew from following the records from 1870 to 1910 that the couple had two children, Henry and Adaline.
(By the way, there's also a genealogical mistake circulating that marries Catherine Ditzenberger, dau. of Jacob Wesley and Mary Moore Ditzenberger to Francois THIS in St. Clair, IL. I can't find any reason to think that Catherine married This either before or after her marriage to Deitrich. She was born in Boone County, married Deitrich in Boone when she was 20, lived in Boone with him until they moved to Preble Co., OH and, although he may have preceded her in death, she lived with her son in 1920 and her daughter in Dayton in 1930 and is buried in the same cemetery with Deitrich in OH.)
As for Deitrich Glander, there lived more than one man of that name in Preble Co., OH during the period of interest. And more than one of them had a sister named Catherine, Margaret and so on or a brother named Henry. To this point, I've had to reject all records that provide Deitrich with the middle initial S. This appears to be a different Glander, the eventual father of a large family. Also, there is a Deitrich that arrived in New York by ship in the mid to late 1860s. He's about the same age, give or take 5 years, but arrived too late and, even if he has a brother named Henry, doesn't make him the same. Although it would be useful, I won't list all the records I've rejected. Instead, I'll present the four I feel represent Catherine Ditzenberger's Deitrich.
The most obvious is the Preble Co., OH marriage record of their daughter, Ada Glander. From it, I find her middle initial, M. I was also able to attach census records to her that I have previously been holding back until I verified a husband's name. Ada married a man named Charles O. Hipple, and the record identifies the bride's father as Deitrich Glander and her mother as Catherine Ditzenberger. As mentioned above, Catherine is living with Ada and Charles in 1930 after Deitrich's death.
And then there are two census records in OH, one containing Deitrich's name, one preserving the names of his siblings in birth order. In 1860, which would have been 5 years after their arrival in America, the Glanders are located in Washington, Preble Co., thus...
John H. 53 head, farmer
Margret 50
Rebecca 24
Ann 22
Detrict 19
Caroline 14
Adoline 12
Benjamin 9
Henry 4
All are born in Germany with the exception of Henry, which makes the dates and ages tidy and acceptable.
In 1870, two years after Deitrich's marriage to Catherine, this census is recorded in Twin, Preble Co., OH;
Hannin Glander 65
Margarett 60
Rebecca 31
Adaline 21
Benjamin 17
Henry 12
All born in "Deu, Bru," Germany naturally, except for Henry, born in Ohio.
Last (or first, depending how you look at it) of the acceptable records is the ship's passenger list of the Nelson, departing from Bremen, Germany, arriving in New York, 19 Oct 1854.
J H Glander 48
Margaretha 43
Margaretha 20
Becca 18
Anna 16
Diederich 14
Frena (Irena?) 9
Anna 6
Burchard 3
Given the good match of dates, names of the older children and parents, I don't believe it's too much of a stretch to match the girl (F)Irene with Caroline (born 1846 according to one record, about 1845 here), Anna with Adaline (1848 birth dates for her here and on census records) and Burchard with Benjamin, an Americanization (1851 here, 1853 on a census). This passenger list uniquely represents, therefore, the Dietrich Glander that eventually married Catherine Ditzenberger.
Actually, there is one other record besides these four on paper. At FIND A GRAVE, there is a memorial for Catherine Diesenberger Glander, d/o of Jacob Diesenberger and Mary Moore. She's linked as the wife of Detrick Glander. The user-submitted data is appropriate for this couple, interred at Mound Hill Union Cemetery, Eaton, Preble Co., OH, although I don't know the source of the information. The date of death at the Detrick memorial is confirmed by a death index record for a Deitrich Glander, but the index doesn't reveal any relationships. However, the date of 1917 is appropriate for Deitrich's death, considering that Catherine is alone with their son, Henry, on the 1920 census.
There is no picture at the memorials, but if all this information is verified by the headstone inscriptions, then there's no question it's the correct couple. For the moment, I'll trust the word of the memorial manager, which jives with records.
As for some ancestral trees that list the German grandfather of Deitrich as so and so, I believe I've gone as far as I can with reliable American records or as far as I need to go. Catherine Ditzenberger was an aunt of mine, not a grandmother, and the above information provides a solid starting point for anyone in her direct family line (descendants of Nevin Hipple [below] if any) that decides to hop the pond back to Germany.
1.Deitrich Glander married Catherine Ditzenberger
children:
2.Henry Glander (b.1869, OH, d.after 1930, probably 1941, OH) never married
2.Ada Glander (b. Aug 1875) m. Charles Otto Hipple (b.29 Mar 1877, Preble Co., OH)
children:
3. Nevin Hipple (b.18 Aug 1930, OH-d. Sep 1980, OH)
I admit to being somewhat lax when I first began looking along that branch of my family tree, but I soon discovered that a conservative approach was best when faced with the Glander problem in OH. Without traveling to Preble County myself, I think I must be satisfied with the few records that absolutely fit the parameters I've set for this family and reject any others, no matter how tempting to claim for my Deitrich Glander.
My confusion is simplified by narrowing the search with a Ditzenberger, that is, the Deitrich Glander in whom I'm interested married Catherine Ditzenberger, dau. of Jacob Wesley (also a German immigrant) and Mary Elizabeth MOORE DITZENBERGER. Catherine and Deitrich may have met in Preble Co., OH where the first four Ditzenberger children were born before the family moved to Boone Co., Indiana or, just as likely, the families knew each other and when it came time for Catherine to marry... Well, young people have a way of finding one another...
Before digging into the Ohio Glander records, I already had a timeline on Deitrich and Catherine as a couple residing in Boone Co., Indiana. I knew from census records that Deitrich was born in Jan 1841 and that he traveled to America in 1855 and married Catherine around 1867 (confirmed by a marriage record, which pins the date down to 24 Sep 1868). These were three relatively good dates from his most legible census record, the 1910 Indiana. I also knew from following the records from 1870 to 1910 that the couple had two children, Henry and Adaline.
(By the way, there's also a genealogical mistake circulating that marries Catherine Ditzenberger, dau. of Jacob Wesley and Mary Moore Ditzenberger to Francois THIS in St. Clair, IL. I can't find any reason to think that Catherine married This either before or after her marriage to Deitrich. She was born in Boone County, married Deitrich in Boone when she was 20, lived in Boone with him until they moved to Preble Co., OH and, although he may have preceded her in death, she lived with her son in 1920 and her daughter in Dayton in 1930 and is buried in the same cemetery with Deitrich in OH.)
As for Deitrich Glander, there lived more than one man of that name in Preble Co., OH during the period of interest. And more than one of them had a sister named Catherine, Margaret and so on or a brother named Henry. To this point, I've had to reject all records that provide Deitrich with the middle initial S. This appears to be a different Glander, the eventual father of a large family. Also, there is a Deitrich that arrived in New York by ship in the mid to late 1860s. He's about the same age, give or take 5 years, but arrived too late and, even if he has a brother named Henry, doesn't make him the same. Although it would be useful, I won't list all the records I've rejected. Instead, I'll present the four I feel represent Catherine Ditzenberger's Deitrich.
The most obvious is the Preble Co., OH marriage record of their daughter, Ada Glander. From it, I find her middle initial, M. I was also able to attach census records to her that I have previously been holding back until I verified a husband's name. Ada married a man named Charles O. Hipple, and the record identifies the bride's father as Deitrich Glander and her mother as Catherine Ditzenberger. As mentioned above, Catherine is living with Ada and Charles in 1930 after Deitrich's death.
And then there are two census records in OH, one containing Deitrich's name, one preserving the names of his siblings in birth order. In 1860, which would have been 5 years after their arrival in America, the Glanders are located in Washington, Preble Co., thus...
John H. 53 head, farmer
Margret 50
Rebecca 24
Ann 22
Detrict 19
Caroline 14
Adoline 12
Benjamin 9
Henry 4
All are born in Germany with the exception of Henry, which makes the dates and ages tidy and acceptable.
In 1870, two years after Deitrich's marriage to Catherine, this census is recorded in Twin, Preble Co., OH;
Hannin Glander 65
Margarett 60
Rebecca 31
Adaline 21
Benjamin 17
Henry 12
All born in "Deu, Bru," Germany naturally, except for Henry, born in Ohio.
Last (or first, depending how you look at it) of the acceptable records is the ship's passenger list of the Nelson, departing from Bremen, Germany, arriving in New York, 19 Oct 1854.
J H Glander 48
Margaretha 43
Margaretha 20
Becca 18
Anna 16
Diederich 14
Frena (Irena?) 9
Anna 6
Burchard 3
Given the good match of dates, names of the older children and parents, I don't believe it's too much of a stretch to match the girl (F)Irene with Caroline (born 1846 according to one record, about 1845 here), Anna with Adaline (1848 birth dates for her here and on census records) and Burchard with Benjamin, an Americanization (1851 here, 1853 on a census). This passenger list uniquely represents, therefore, the Dietrich Glander that eventually married Catherine Ditzenberger.
Actually, there is one other record besides these four on paper. At FIND A GRAVE, there is a memorial for Catherine Diesenberger Glander, d/o of Jacob Diesenberger and Mary Moore. She's linked as the wife of Detrick Glander. The user-submitted data is appropriate for this couple, interred at Mound Hill Union Cemetery, Eaton, Preble Co., OH, although I don't know the source of the information. The date of death at the Detrick memorial is confirmed by a death index record for a Deitrich Glander, but the index doesn't reveal any relationships. However, the date of 1917 is appropriate for Deitrich's death, considering that Catherine is alone with their son, Henry, on the 1920 census.
There is no picture at the memorials, but if all this information is verified by the headstone inscriptions, then there's no question it's the correct couple. For the moment, I'll trust the word of the memorial manager, which jives with records.
As for some ancestral trees that list the German grandfather of Deitrich as so and so, I believe I've gone as far as I can with reliable American records or as far as I need to go. Catherine Ditzenberger was an aunt of mine, not a grandmother, and the above information provides a solid starting point for anyone in her direct family line (descendants of Nevin Hipple [below] if any) that decides to hop the pond back to Germany.
1.Deitrich Glander married Catherine Ditzenberger
children:
2.Henry Glander (b.1869, OH, d.after 1930, probably 1941, OH) never married
2.Ada Glander (b. Aug 1875) m. Charles Otto Hipple (b.29 Mar 1877, Preble Co., OH)
children:
3. Nevin Hipple (b.18 Aug 1930, OH-d. Sep 1980, OH)
Wednesday, September 22, 2010
Jacob and Mary Ditzenberger: Grandparents
I was previously confused about the identity of Jacob Wesley's youngest "children," unable to follow them through the records. The reason has now become clear, because of my realization that there were TWO census records listing them in the same year.
There is a census record for 1870, Eagle, Boone, IN, which names Jacob as head of household and at the bottom of his household are three males, George, Charles and Conrad, whose ages dovetail so well into those of the older children that they appear to be Jacob and Mary's sons, thus...
Jac Ditzenberger 61
Mary Ditzenberger 52
Alexander Ditzenberger 14
Lewellan Ditzenberger 13
Mary Ditzenberger 11
Jonathan Ditzenberger 8
George Ditzenberger 7
Charles Ditzenberger 3
Conrad Ditzenberger 1
HOWEVER, another record for the same year, 1870, but for Center, Boone, IN shows the same three males, George, Charles and Conrad, this time residing with C.A. (Charles Augustus) and Henry, thus...
C A Ditzenbarge 35
Henry Ditzenbarge 8
George Ditzenbarge 6
Charles Ditzenbarge 4
Conrad Ditzenbarge 1
The records for these four boys as sons of Charles Augustus are readily found (with the exception of Conrad), but if trying to piece together a history for any of them as sons of Jacob and Mary, there's nothing.
The reason is that these boys are grandsons of Jacob and Mary, despite the appearance as sons on the Eagle, Boone Co. census. The lack of relationship data on the 1870 census led me to the mistake, but finding the census for Center, Boone Co., set me back on the right track. As the Ditzenberger biography states at the Boone County Historical Society's webpage, there are fourteen children (not seventeen) of Jacob and Mary.
Hopefully, this will help others piecing together their Ditzenberger heritage.
There is a census record for 1870, Eagle, Boone, IN, which names Jacob as head of household and at the bottom of his household are three males, George, Charles and Conrad, whose ages dovetail so well into those of the older children that they appear to be Jacob and Mary's sons, thus...
Jac Ditzenberger 61
Mary Ditzenberger 52
Alexander Ditzenberger 14
Lewellan Ditzenberger 13
Mary Ditzenberger 11
Jonathan Ditzenberger 8
George Ditzenberger 7
Charles Ditzenberger 3
Conrad Ditzenberger 1
HOWEVER, another record for the same year, 1870, but for Center, Boone, IN shows the same three males, George, Charles and Conrad, this time residing with C.A. (Charles Augustus) and Henry, thus...
C A Ditzenbarge 35
Henry Ditzenbarge 8
George Ditzenbarge 6
Charles Ditzenbarge 4
Conrad Ditzenbarge 1
The records for these four boys as sons of Charles Augustus are readily found (with the exception of Conrad), but if trying to piece together a history for any of them as sons of Jacob and Mary, there's nothing.
The reason is that these boys are grandsons of Jacob and Mary, despite the appearance as sons on the Eagle, Boone Co. census. The lack of relationship data on the 1870 census led me to the mistake, but finding the census for Center, Boone Co., set me back on the right track. As the Ditzenberger biography states at the Boone County Historical Society's webpage, there are fourteen children (not seventeen) of Jacob and Mary.
Hopefully, this will help others piecing together their Ditzenberger heritage.
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