I have left few stones unturned in trying to find the father of Nick Frelow Eller. Isabella (from my title) was the daughter of a man named William Eller, born in NC around 1831. That's according to the 1860 census of Castor, Madison, Missouri. Also according to that census, Isabella was herself born in 1854 in Indiana, and she had a younger brother named James E., born in Missouri in 1858. That tells me that the Eller family moved from Indiana to Missouri between 1854 and 1858.
The main reason that Isabella is so interesting is because the man I'm trying to trace, Nick Frelow Eller's father, was (according to the 1880 census for Scott, Taney, MO) William Eller, a man born around 1830 in NC. By 1880, Isabella would have been 26 and probably married, so she would not have appeared on that 1880 census with her father, but the children that do appear, Franklin, Nick and Eliza were born, respectively, in MO, IL and IN. For that to be true, the family had to have been living in MO at the time of Franklin's birth, 1860, subsequently traveled north to IL by the time Nick was born, 1865, later lived in IN, where Eliza was born in 1866 and, finally, returned to MO by 1880, the date of the census.
Isabella, too, was living in MO with her father, William Eller, in 1860, and Franklin could have been born that year after the census was taken.
My hunch is that William had Eller relatives living in Indiana. It's possible that the Civil War, brutal in Missouri, was a factor in the family's move north again between 1860 and 1865. Also, if Nick's place of birth, IL, is accurate, the family was moving quite a bit and that might explain why I have yet to find a census record for them in 1870 (the record, by the way, which would possibly show Isabella and James in the household along with the younger children). Lacking this record, I can't be sure that Isabella's father is the same as Nick F Eller's father.
I've tried to replace that record with other information and that's why I ordered this Indiana marriage certificate. It shows Isabel Eller marrying David Brown in Indiana in 1872, but I was hoping it might show the name of the bride's father or mother. It doesn't.
Nevertheless, date and place and name are all consistent with the timeline I sketched above. If Nick's older sister was to marry, it would have been in Indiana between 1870 and 1880.
I'm still trying to confirm a hypothetical timeline I've constructed for William Eller's life. I'm searching Indiana for Ellers, especially in Monroe (where David and Isabella are buried) and in Greene (where they married) counties, and I continue to look for records between 1866 and 1880 for William.
If YOU have any information that could help me, please comment.
Headstone: Richland Cemetery, Bloomington, Monroe County, IN
"It is a noble faculty of ours which enables us to collect our thoughts, our sympathies and our happiness with what is distant in place or times - to hold communion with our ancestors. We become their contemporaries, live the lives they lived, endure what they have endured and partake of the rewards which they have enjoyed." --Daniel Webster
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Surname: Roop
Variants are numerous: Roope, Rupp, Rupe, Ruppe, Roupe, Roup, Roper and others.
The name Roper is examined here - click link. The English version of Roper may be Norman, derived from Rupierre in Caen, Normandy or an occupational name, the man who made your ropes.
The Germanic forms (Dutch, if you prefer) may be derived from the personal name Ruprecht, famed/bright one--take your pick of glorious adjectives. Robert is the English version. I also found evidence that Rupp and variants may be a form of German Krupp and variants, where the K or C has been dropped.
The form Roop shows up in the Ancestry.com immigration records 24 times. Nineteen people named Roop had Germanic origins. Only two were English. In the 1920 census (also from Ancestry.com) the form Roop was best represented in the states of PA (12% of Roops), OH (12%), IN (6%) and VA (12%).
My own Roop ancestor, Jonathan, was born in Pennsylvania in 1819 and migrated to Missouri between 1856 and 1863. Playing odds with immigration and settlement patterns, my guess is that Jonathan Roop was of Germanic and not English descent. If I knew his wife's maiden name, it would help me identify an ethnic community, but I don't. All I have is Sarah.
That 1920 number of 12% of Roops in Virginia is not insignificant. While searching for information about Jonathan's past, I've run into a lot of records for Virginia Roops, although I don't believe at this time that there's any connection of my family with the Virginia branch (if a branch it even is).
As long as I'm discussing the Roops, let me put my information out there and see if anyone can help me. All I really have are two census records.
In 1870, Jno Roop is the head of household in Clay, Clark, Missouri.
Jno Roop b.1819, PA
Sarah Roop b.1820, PA
Phebe Roop b1849, PA
Sarah J Roop b1850, PA
Adam Roop b1852, PA
Jno Roop b1854, PA
William Roop b1856, PA
David A Roop b1863, MO
Owen Brown (laborer)
In 1880, Jno Roop is the head of household in Clay, Monroe, Missouri.
Jno Roop, head, b1819, PA
Sarah Roop, wife, b1821, PA
David A. Roop, son, b1865, MO
Jno. Shaw, grandson, b1867, MO
Mary E. Shaw, granddaughter, b1868, MO
Wm. F. Shaw*, son, paralyzed, b1857, PA
Adam Roop, son, b1853, PA
Jno Roop, son, b1854, PA
*Note:I can't explain why the son William takes the name of Shaw in the second census.
I've provided information on this family before in my post, Which Sarah Jane?, and I haven't made any progress since that time. I notice, sadly, that the dates aren't quite right for the Roop men to have participated in the Civil War, nor have I found where any of the younger ones registered for the WWI draft. That rules out a military lead. Neither can I find this Roop family in earlier census records (1850 or 1860) in Pennsylvania. I can find Roops there, specifically on wills, but with no evidence that I'm looking at the correct family. I've tried finding the sons as adults in Missouri; again no luck.
Lacking specific records, I've resorted to general patterns, like surname origin, which isn't yielding much either. :(
The name Roper is examined here - click link. The English version of Roper may be Norman, derived from Rupierre in Caen, Normandy or an occupational name, the man who made your ropes.
The Germanic forms (Dutch, if you prefer) may be derived from the personal name Ruprecht, famed/bright one--take your pick of glorious adjectives. Robert is the English version. I also found evidence that Rupp and variants may be a form of German Krupp and variants, where the K or C has been dropped.
The form Roop shows up in the Ancestry.com immigration records 24 times. Nineteen people named Roop had Germanic origins. Only two were English. In the 1920 census (also from Ancestry.com) the form Roop was best represented in the states of PA (12% of Roops), OH (12%), IN (6%) and VA (12%).
My own Roop ancestor, Jonathan, was born in Pennsylvania in 1819 and migrated to Missouri between 1856 and 1863. Playing odds with immigration and settlement patterns, my guess is that Jonathan Roop was of Germanic and not English descent. If I knew his wife's maiden name, it would help me identify an ethnic community, but I don't. All I have is Sarah.
That 1920 number of 12% of Roops in Virginia is not insignificant. While searching for information about Jonathan's past, I've run into a lot of records for Virginia Roops, although I don't believe at this time that there's any connection of my family with the Virginia branch (if a branch it even is).
As long as I'm discussing the Roops, let me put my information out there and see if anyone can help me. All I really have are two census records.
In 1870, Jno Roop is the head of household in Clay, Clark, Missouri.
Jno Roop b.1819, PA
Sarah Roop b.1820, PA
Phebe Roop b1849, PA
Sarah J Roop b1850, PA
Adam Roop b1852, PA
Jno Roop b1854, PA
William Roop b1856, PA
David A Roop b1863, MO
Owen Brown (laborer)
In 1880, Jno Roop is the head of household in Clay, Monroe, Missouri.
Jno Roop, head, b1819, PA
Sarah Roop, wife, b1821, PA
David A. Roop, son, b1865, MO
Jno. Shaw, grandson, b1867, MO
Mary E. Shaw, granddaughter, b1868, MO
Wm. F. Shaw*, son, paralyzed, b1857, PA
Adam Roop, son, b1853, PA
Jno Roop, son, b1854, PA
*Note:I can't explain why the son William takes the name of Shaw in the second census.
I've provided information on this family before in my post, Which Sarah Jane?, and I haven't made any progress since that time. I notice, sadly, that the dates aren't quite right for the Roop men to have participated in the Civil War, nor have I found where any of the younger ones registered for the WWI draft. That rules out a military lead. Neither can I find this Roop family in earlier census records (1850 or 1860) in Pennsylvania. I can find Roops there, specifically on wills, but with no evidence that I'm looking at the correct family. I've tried finding the sons as adults in Missouri; again no luck.
Lacking specific records, I've resorted to general patterns, like surname origin, which isn't yielding much either. :(
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